Can Men Be Feminists?
January 13, 2012 3 Comments
Can men be feminists?
[This is a question which rolls around from time to time and, loathe though I am to contribute to the decades of speculation on the issue, I hope a blog outlining my thoughts may excuse me from having to do so as frequently in future.]
First and foremost, I regard the question as one of semantics. No one is sensibly arguing that men cannot challenge sexism, attempt to understand feminist gender politics and so forth; indeed, it’s rather expected that they should. The question is how we refer to men who do so.
The reason that the word ‘feminist’ may be inappropriate is that, according to some, a feminist understanding of the world must be informed by explicitely female experience. A man, because his experience of patriarchal society is necessarily different from that of women, is incapable of reaching such an understanding. Various alternate phrases, like ‘supportive of feminism’ and ‘feminist ally’ exist to fill the gap (which I personally think sound uncommitted and somewhat patronising, though your mileage may vary).
It is arguably true that only those who have been on the receiving end of misogynist oppression can fully understand it, but is the ability to understand misogyny in this way the only definition of feminism? Is feminism not simply a body of ideas and schools of thought like any other, and ‘feminist’ simply a name for its adherents?
Considered another way: Feminist arguments made by women are often dismissed as being subjective (according to the prejudices proscribed by patriarchy; generally because the woman is emotional, hormonal, irrational or stupid). Of course, good feminist arguments stand objectively, regardless of who is making them, and (though they may be reached through uniquely female experience) can be comprehended, accepted and put forward by anyone. Yes, a man’s capacity to contribute to feminist discourse will at times be necessarily different to that of women (and often of less usefulness), and yes men should not crowd women out of feminist discourse, but an awareness of and attempts to challenge one’s own privilege is surely something we should expect from any feminist, regardless of gender.
The degree of commonality in female experience is itself debatable, especially when sexist oppression intersects with other forms (racial, homophobic, transphobic, ablist and class being the most obvious). It seems flippant and evasive to respond to any issue of gender politics by disputing the inherent essentialism, but it is never the less worth considering that any attitude which relies on a ubiquitous female experience is likely to fall foul of other, more nuanced, feminist thought. Our gender should not define our intellectual or political identity.
A significant contributing problem, which demands more consideration than I’m going to give it here, is a habit of reducing all things to uncomplicated labels which we can then chose to apply to ourselves or not. Therefore, several centuries of probing, ever developing, frequently contradictory critical thought are reduced to a binary of political identity: one is or is not a feminist. Similarly, concern over whether or not one is a Marxist, an anarchist, a post structuralist etc are often unhelpful. These are schools of thought from which one may take what is useful and consider it without redefining one’s own political identity. These ideologies, rather than describing who we are, enable us to describe what we are thinking.
I argue, often, from a feminist perspective. Feminist ideas inform my interpretation of my experiences, which informs my thinking, and that thinking informs my actions. I consider myself a feminist.
I consider myself a feminist, but many would have my little badge stripped from me because i take a submissive position in a D/s relationship. It is , i believe a label that only makes sense if applied to oneself, otherwise membership becomes reliant on meeting criteria which themselves are laden with the baggage others bring.See for example the appalling treatment of the transgender community by mainstream feminism.
Oh, hey. This is awesome.
Recently, I’ve been engaged in discussions around feminism, and it’s applicability to men telling their own stories. See, I think men need to speak up about how they exist in the world, I fully believe they are not given free reign to do so just yet (regardless of their privilege, they are still often confined by it). However – in so doing, they naturally begin to talk about gender, race, sexuality, sexual violence etc. They begin to engage dialogue that starts to actually push back on decades on work in these areas. Part of that is an inability to see privilege, and part is naivete about such things, due to that privilege as well as not having studied or thought about these things before (for which I don’t blame them). They didn’t see that dialogue coming, but then are resistant to learning why it’s a problem (and, secondarily, why it becomes a problem when other men start chiming in who are happy to talk about such things and how those things are wrong or are “feminist dogma”).
Now. I’m interested in how we begin to allow a safe space for men to talk, which can include how they *feel* marginalized or harmed by feminism (still valid and still important), without pissing off everyone else. I’ve been trying to say a lot of what’s here, although I think I’m failing. In addition, I’m running up against people who, again and again, I *think* are on the same page but can’t seem to see that, and make it an argument polarized along gender lines – e.g. are so against what rape culture says about men, for instance, but somehow have trouble making the connection that feminists don’t like it either, and are not, actually, perpetuating it. Or that terms like “patriarchy” and “privilege” can actually provide a language for men to speak, too – they just have to recognize that they are *giving up privilege* and that is different from *historically not having it*… and I know that is difficult. In addition, it’s the line between using terms that everyone can understand while also comprehending that “[t]he degree of commonality in [any] experience is itself debatable, especially when sexist oppression intersects with other forms (racial, homophobic, transphobic, ablist and class being the most obvious)” as you said above. It’s been difficult to keep people from grouping “everyone else” into finite boxes.
Um, right. Not sure if that even ties in here or what I am trying to say. My brain is really fully right now. Regardless, great post.
Great post!